I add only that I do my best not to swallow the results of sausage-making, either.
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
July 11, 2005
PRESS BRIEFING BY SCOTT McCLELLAN
James S. Brady Press Briefing Room
Q Does the President stand by his pledge to fire
anyone involved in the leak of a name of a CIA operative?
MR. McCLELLAN: Terry, I
appreciate your question. I think your question is being asked
relating to some reports that are in reference to an ongoing
criminal investigation. The criminal investigation that you
reference is something that continues at this point. And as I’ve
previously stated, while that investigation is ongoing, the White
House is not going to comment on it. The President directed the White
House to cooperate fully with the investigation, and as part of
cooperating fully with the investigation, we made a decision that we
weren’t going to comment on it while it is ongoing.
Q Excuse me, but I wasn’t actually
talking about any investigation. But in June of 2004, the President said
that he would fire anybody who was involved in this leak, to press of
information. And I just want to know, is that still his position?
MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, but this question
is coming up in the context of this ongoing investigation, and that’s why
I said that our policy continues to be that we’re not going to get into
commenting on an ongoing criminal investigation from this podium. The
prosecutors overseeing the investigation had expressed a preference to us
that one way to help the investigation is not to be commenting on it from
this podium. And so that’s why we are not going to get into commenting on
it while it is an ongoing investigation, or questions related to it.
Q Scott, if I could — if I could
point out, contradictory to that statement, on September 29th, 2003, while
the investigation was ongoing, you clearly commented on it. You were the
first one who said, if anybody from the White House was involved, they
would be fired. And then on June 10th of 2004, at Sea Island Plantation,
in the midst of this investigation is when the President made his comment
that, yes, he would fire anybody from the White House who was involved. So
why have you commented on this during the process of the investigation in
the past, but now you’ve suddenly drawn a curtain around it under the
statement of, We’re not going to comment on an ongoing
investigation
?
MR. McCLELLAN: Again, John, I
appreciate the question. I know you want to get to the bottom of this. No
one wants to get to the bottom of it more than the President of the United
States. And I think the way to be most helpful is to not get into
commenting on it while it is an ongoing investigation. That’s something
that the people overseeing the investigation have expressed a preference
that we follow. And that’s why we’re continuing to follow that approach
and that policy.
Now, I remember very well what was previously said. And at some point, I
will be glad to talk about it, but not until after the investigation is
complete.
Q So could I just ask, when did you
change your mind to say that it was okay to comment during the course of
an investigation before, but now it’s not?
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think maybe
you missed what I was saying in reference to Terry’s question at the
beginning. There came a point when the investigation got underway when
those overseeing the investigation asked that it would be their — or said
that it would be their preference that we not get into discussing it while
it is ongoing. I think that’s the way to be most helpful to help them
advance the investigation and get to the bottom of it.
Q Scott, can I ask you this; did Karl
Rove commit a crime?
MR. McCLELLAN: Again, David, this is
a question relating to an ongoing investigation, and you have my response
related to the investigation. And I don’t think you should read anything
into it other than we’re going to continue not to comment on it while it’s
ongoing.
Q Do you stand by your statement from
the fall of 2003 when you were asked specifically about Karl and Elliott
Abrams and Scooter Libby, and you said, I’ve gone to each of those
gentlemen, and they have told me they are not involved in this
— do
you stand by that statement?
MR. McCLELLAN: And if you will
recall, I said that as part of helping the investigators move forward on
the investigation we’re not going to get into commenting on it. That was
something I stated back near that time, as well.
Q Scott, I mean, just — I mean, this
is ridiculous. The notion that you’re going to stand before us after
having commented with that level of detail and tell people watching this
that somehow you decided not to talk. You’ve got a public record out
there. Do you stand by your remarks from that podium, or not?
MR. McCLELLAN: And again, David, I’m
well aware, like you, of what was previously said, and I will be glad to
talk about it at the appropriate time. The appropriate time is when the
investigation —
Q Why are you choosing when it’s
appropriate and when it’s inappropriate?
MR. McCLELLAN: If you’ll let me
finish —
Q No, you’re not finishing — you’re
not saying anything. You stood at that podium and said that Karl Rove was
not involved. And now we find out that he spoke out about Joseph Wilson’s
wife. So don’t you owe the American public a fuller explanation? Was he
involved, or was he not? Because, contrary to what you told the American
people, he did, indeed, talk about his wife, didn’t he?
MR. McCLELLAN: David, there will be a
time to talk about this, but now is not the time to talk about it.
Q Do you think people will accept
that, what you’re saying today?
MR. McCLELLAN: Again, I’ve responded
to the question.