Comments on Before sea and dry lands — heaped masses and messes and the seeds of ill-joined things!official state media for a secessionist republic of one2024-01-20T23:00:14Zhttps://radgeek.com/gt/2020/05/09/before-sea-lands-heaped-masses-seeds-ill-joined-things/feed/WordPressBy: Rad GeekRad Geekhttp://radgeek.com/https://radgeek.com/?p=9696#comment-7426732020-05-27T18:54:53Z2020-05-27T18:54:53ZI say a lot about the translation of “Chaos” in the subsequent post. I think the conception here has some things in common with the Genesis tohu-bohu and other things not in common with it. In particular, Ovid’s primordial Chaos is also unformed (rudis) and confused (indigesta) like Tohu-Bohu, but it’s not void or empty. (This also seems to be a difference between Ovid’s Chaos and Hesiod’s ?@cf;2021;άος.) If anything, Ovid’s Chaos is full up: it has nothing but mass,weight, everything piled up in the same place; empty spaces only show up later in the cosmogony once the elements have been formed (air, aether and space all show up as sorts of differentiation and separation, and Ovid seems to take those as requiring intelligible form that the primordial pondus iners hasn’t yet got).
]]>By: Rad Geek People's Daily 2020-05-25 – Quem dixere CHAOS: Before sea and dry lands and heaven over all, the senseless weight and the seeds of ill-joined things in strife!Rad Geek People's Daily 2020-05-25 – Quem dixere CHAOS: Before sea and dry lands and heaven over all, the senseless weight and the seeds of ill-joined things in strife!https://radgeek.com/gt/2020/05/25/quem-dixere-chaos-before-sea-and-dry-lands-and-heaven-over-all-the-senseless-weight-and-the-seeds-of-ill-joined-things-in-strife/https://radgeek.com/?p=9696#comment-7426482020-05-25T20:02:29Z2020-05-25T20:02:29Z[…] So let’s look back at the beginning of the epic narrative in Ovid’s Metamorphoses (I.005-009), and make some attempts to translate the lines into English. Here’s the original Latin again, together with my prosy sort of translation from the earlier p… […]
]]>By: Roderick T. LongRoderick T. Longhttp://aaeblog.comhttps://radgeek.com/?p=9696#comment-7423782020-05-11T06:30:14Z2020-05-11T06:30:14ZTohu-bohu.
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